I mentioned the other day that Howard Stern sidekick Artie Lange was looking to go hunting. Well this morning, some PETA VEGAN shit head named Sam Simon was on debating Ted Nugent over the value of hunting and whether or not Artie could ever bring himself to kill an animal.
Only caught the end, but Artie (he was convicted of coke possession some years ago) left the question open contingent on whether he can use a gun or not - he just doesn’t have it in him to go bow hunting - and Howard said if he just wanted to go shooting to let him know he has lots of guns, he’s got an Uzi, you can shoot all of them to your hearts content.
Wish I could find transcripts, etc. (if you go here and scroll down to 8:50 its not a line by line transcript but pretty good summary of what happened)
Sam asked Ted if he eats leopards when he hunts them. Ted said he has. Sam talked about how he’s actually saved some leopards from being shot in these controlled hunting events because they have no way to get away. They’re stuck in an enclosure where the hunters can just shoot them in the open. Ted told Sam that he’s full of shit and out of his mind. He accused him of lying about that stuff. Sam said he’s seen it for himself so he’s absolutely not lying.
Ted said that he has hunted zebra, elephant and many other things. He said that the meat they get is given to people who need to eat across this country. They hunt deer for those people. Sam said that they do that just so they have an excuse to kill more deer.
Sam said that Ted makes an enormous amount of money from this hunting he does. He said the guy makes money off DVDs and stuff like that so he’s not just hunting for food. Ted told Sam to suck his dick after hearing that. He said that the money he makes goes to help kids and various charities. Sam said that maybe Ted gives away his money but there are people making money on the hunting.
There’s lots more.
UPDATE Howard’s official page has the details up from yesterday’s show.
HUNTING: BOTH SIDES
After a commercial, Howard reported Artie was in the green room sleeping, and wondered what he did the rest of the day that made him so tired. Howard then told Artie the only reason he had him woken up was because he had Ted Nugent, someone who supported the hunting of animals, and Sam Simon, a vegan of 35 years, on the line to discuss his potential hunting trip with Richard’s dad, Tom.
Sam noted he didn’t think Artie should hunt given the fact that animals both suffer a great deal when hunted and sometimes are merely wounded and not killed when struck. However, Ted claimed 90 percent of animals “hit†while hunting with a bow and arrow are killed, while another 8 percent allegedly survive like nothing happened. Because Ted compared hunting to the way animals harm other animals in everyday life during his argument, Sam noted the situations weren’t analogous, and insisted Ted was just adding more “suffering in the world†through his actions.
KILLING MORE THAN JUST DEER
Sam brought up how Ted supported canned hunts in Africa where wild animals like leopards were made to run down an enclosed area while hunters shot at them. Ted replied, though, that every part of the animals he killed in Africa went to the people of the area, and admitted to having killed and eaten zebras and elephants as well. This led Sam to claim Ted made “a ton of money†off his hunting, but Ted denied the allegation, adding “no check†had ever been written to him because of hunting.
DECIDING TO SIT IT OUT
Sam acknowledged his main problem with hunting was the pleasure hunters took in killing animals, while Artie admitted he didn’t see the difference in eating a steak and not killing the animals himself. Artie then asked Sam if he had a problem with Tom’s lifestyle, given that he needed to hunt to survive, and he said he didn’t, as long Tom needed to hunt to eat, but that it wasn’t necessary for Ted to do the same thing.
Given all the information he’d heard, Artie then promised he wouldn’t go bow-hunting, but, if he was legally permitted to hunt with a gun given of his record as a felon, he’d think about it more before making his decision. Both Howard and Robin acknowledged, though, that they were siding with Sam on the debate, and Artie ended up agreeing with them.
AN UNEQUAL “SPORTâ€
Howard took a number of calls on the topic, including one from a listener who referred to hunting as “a sport.†This led Gary to get on his intercom and question the caller’s definition of “sport,†pointing out he didn’t think a person with a gun was a fair match against a defenseless animal. However, the caller insisted it was, and added he thought animals like deer knew when hunting season started, and avoided walking around much because they knew they were involved in “the game.â€