Comments on: Kel Tec P-11 Part 2

By: Countertop

Countertop — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:00:40 +0000

Update here

By: Phil-Z

Phil-Z — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:39:32 +0000

Thanks for the range report and the note on the gap. I carry my kel-tec .32 in a pocket holster I got off of ebay. It has a leather flap secured to a “normal” pocket holster. The flap totally hides the outline of the gun. I still want a p-11 for myself but I ended up spending my summer gun money on a old Norinco AK a buddy was selling a few days before you posted this review. But this fall ….

By: Montie

Montie — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:27:24 +0000

Don’t feel too bad about being able to see through the gap between your P-11’s slide and frame. I can see through the slide and frame of all three of my Glocks.

By: Homer

Homer — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:32:08 +0000

I picked up a PF-9 a while back - same action as the 11, just a thinner grip frame - because I needed something more than a 380, but not as big as my usual carry piece - a .45 USP in a shoulder rig. The Kel-Tec clip works great; I frequently wear the gun with a tux, and a couple of times when I’ve forgotten and removed my jacket off stage no one noticed it, mostly because it’s black, like the tux, and the clip keeps it low.

The trigger does suck, and there’s not a lot that will improve it greatly, but with some practice I was able to keep a magazine-full on a 9″ paper plate at 12-15 yards, which is what I got the gun for. Mine seems to like Federal 9BP ammo.

And, I alays carry a spare magazine. You’re right, forget about speedy reloading (although the user group site has some tips that will help a lot with that). A semi-auto without a functional magazine is an expensive and cumbersome single shot pistol; having a spare mag improves the odds on not having a single shot.

By: Rivrdog

Rivrdog — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:38:40 +0000

I wouldn’t use Hydrashok in any barrel under 4″. A large bullet is just naturally slower, and if it doesn’t go fast enough to open up, you have just wasted your time and maybe your life.

I carry 124-gr NATO-headstamped ball ammo. It is VERY fast in a full-size 5″ barrel, and ADEQUATELY fast in the 3″ P11 barrel. You DO want to carry ball in a P11 for reliability.

How do I do with mine? For a $195 pistol, just fine. I recently qualified with it on a police seven-stage course, keeping all rounds in the K5 area of a T28 silhouette as required for my retired LEO National Carry card. It was the first time I ever tried to qualify with anything except a full-size duty weapon (usually my Glock Mdl 22). I did get a nasty slide bite on the first round fired from behind a barricade, but it didn’t ruin my day or my score.

After qualifying at 100%, I would take the P11 equally to any Glock, or even my PP. On an IPSC metal-silhouette course, I can ring the 25-yard duck silhouette almost every time shooting quite quickly, and I LOVE the little double-stack mags.

Saved the best part for last: since the P11 can take S&W Model 5906 mags, as does my Kel-Tec Sub Rifle 2000, I have a fine companion pair for about $500!

By: Countertop

Countertop — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:36:01 +0000

Greg

Yeah. It was real surprising to me. I ran the box of 50 through at 10 yards and the groups were decent size - like I said about a 5 inch spread. No problems really with it jamming, it seemed to eat everything I fed it. I think the big issue was just getting used to the heavy trigger - which in a pocket gun that doesn’t have an external safety is a good thing in my mind. If I need to use it in an emergency . . . then its going to be up close and I’ll be pulling for all I’m worth. A 50 yard bullseye target gun this is not though.

By: Vote

Vote — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:02:27 +0000

I bought my P380 from a man who couldn’t keep it on paper at 7 yards (old eyes/small sights/can’t keep still). It’s about a 3″ group at that range for me.

Lint: if you blow down the hole for the barrel, you might be surprised what flies out the bottom of the trigger group.

By: Gregory Morris

Gregory Morris — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:38:13 +0000

KelTecs are what they are… I love my p32, but when I’m carrying it I make sure I take it down and give it a quick brush-off once a week. I also barely oil it, because in my pocket which is where I normally carry it, it does collect lint. Now, it doesn’t seem to affect the functioning, since I’ve carried it for a few weeks without cleaning then taken it to the range. It works fine for the first 40-50 rounds and then starts getting jammy… but they all kinda do that. I’d assume the P11 is similar to the P32 in that it will be reliable as long as its kept clean.

I’m surprised you didn’t hit the target at 25 yards though… I’m guessing the sights are similar if not better than those on my p32, and I can still at least hit paper at 25 yards. I’ve used everything from federal hydrashock to generic white-box to crap range reloads… and it has always shot at least a torso-sized pattern, plus or minus a few fliers, out to 25 yards. Of course, past that its pretty much no-go.